fowler was a HRC supporter.

and all other contenders for the nomination

Nothing quite like always blaming the woman for trouble. And Markos is far from a HRC supporter past or present yet HE is putting conditions on his support for BHO but you don't mention that now do you...

The Puma roams free.  It is not caged.  Never was.  Never will be.

is four days considered too old now to diary about?

You seem to be the only one using that label.   My guess would be that a South Carolina DNC member isn't too concerned with progressive discontent in his state.  Why do you feel the need to label the target audience of this letter progressives?  

You know I have more respect for the PUMAs who are out there organizing, protesting, and using their efforts to gain a voice on FOX or with whoever is willing to talk to them than I do for the big donors who are pouting.  At least the PUMAs are willing to give their name and openly say what they think and why they think it.  Their agenda may not make sense to me, but it is clear and honest.

These donors are trying to have it both ways.  They want reporters talking about them without using their names.  They don't go out and say what they think publicly because they are scared of the backlash.  At the same time they keep pushing the traditional media to subtly undermine the Democratic party by insinuating that there is broad discontent from a nameless, faceless "influential" group.  They are using the influence of their names to get media attention without allowing their names to be made public.  That's cowardly in my opinion.  

I totally agree with you that a lot of these people had their own careers or political influence tied to the idea that Hillary would win.

Consider me clueless.  What is wrong with saying our party?

I know that PUMA people are pissed at Obama and Dean, but when I say "our" I mean all of us.  My perspective comes from getting active in 2003 at the grassroots level and realizing that the party establishment was only interested in the voices of big donors and big name party hacks.  At the state level it really pisses me off that my own union has managed to use its influence to kill good legislation and to make sure that the state party didn't endorse it.  I wouldn't want to deprive the big donors of having their individual voices within the party, but they should be no more important than the rest of us who support the party.

Further recollection on the earlier Buell incident: She was the one who called the hiring of Solis-Doyle as a "slap in the face", declaring it a "calculated decision" by the Obama team to "send a message that she [Clinton] is not being considered for the ticket." In all likelihood, her outrage was prompted by the fact that her personal connections within the campaign were anti-Doyle.

the letter was written weeks ago?  could you provide a source for that?  the link from TPM is dated Juiy 19, 2008 - exactly 4 days ago.  thanks.

as to your PUMA meme - clearly you are having a problem understanding the reality of the situation.

first guy off the bench to help the team win after he got beat out for starting spot.

What else is anyone supposed to do with a group that fails to articulate anything but nebulous "concerns" about the nominee?  Their only unifying characteristic seems to be that they do not want to support him; some do so out of principle, some do so for reasons that no one can understand, some do so out of feelings of revenge, some presumably would have voted for McCain anyway but for qualities unique to Clinton's candidacy, etc.  I mean, I understand that the perceived approach to this problem is to "reach out" to such people, but how do you "reach out" when no one is even sure what those people want (or if it's even possible to win them over), and it's unclear if there's even a consensus about what they want?  

And, really, on some level it is extremely frustrating to a person such as myself who has never backed a winning primary candidate (hell, this year I even supported Dodd initially).  I do think that the vagueness of this supposed movement is an intentionally self-insulating measure so that people feel justified in voting their personal caprices rather than voting for someone who also represents their ideals.  

Ultimately, I'm for whatever approach works, but I've seen no indication that one approach is more effective than any other approach.  Whether you negotiate with or yell at the ocean, the result is the same.  

I want to know exactly what the DNC, Obama or Obama's supporters can do to win over HRC donors and PUMAs?  I want specifics...It seems to me that nothing the DNC, Obama or his supporters would be good enough, unless it involved him dropping out and giving HRC the nomination.

Many members of congress who support Obama, Obama himself, and Obama supporters have said on numerous occasions that HRC is a stalwart for the Democratic party and it was a very competitive primary in which there were things, on both sides, that were unnecessary.  Many of us have apologized and donated to retire HRC's debt.

It seems to me nothing will convince most PUMA members will not make the jump, so why would the campaign waste their resources and time banging their head up against a wall.  They are better off putting their resources into registering new voters and the GOTV in order to make up for PUMA....My opinion only.

Sure, if a person reads a letter that's not addressed to them, they might get offended.

But, they shouldn't, since it's not addressed to them.

I'm guessing it was a mistake.

sorry - but i am getting tired of all you new people making blanket false statements about people you know nothing about.

you have been a member here for 11 days and not written one diary.  so please take a walk before stating baseless crap. C4O is dedicated not getting BO elected and includes some of the most respected bloggers on mydd (me excluded).  

good day.

and blue neponset is mojoing you - says a lot!

a PUMA diary - pro or anti. CG does good reads, and to my mind this is a valid commentary on a boneheaded maneuver.

Just sayin'

Just reviewed the last week of diaries and can't find the one I was referring to above.  Please disregard my comments since I can't back them up or figure out any way to delete them.